{"id":30970,"date":"2013-04-20T09:33:54","date_gmt":"2013-04-20T16:33:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/?p=30970"},"modified":"2020-12-13T10:31:30","modified_gmt":"2020-12-13T17:31:30","slug":"bob-carol-ted-alice-1969","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/?p=30970","title":{"rendered":"Bob &#038; Carol &#038; Ted &#038; Alice (1969)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>&#8220;That&#8217;s beautiful, see &#8212; that&#8217;s really a lovely thing.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-Carol-Ted-Alice-Poster.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-Carol-Ted-Alice-Poster-209x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"209\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-30977\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-Carol-Ted-Alice-Poster-209x300.jpg 209w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-Carol-Ted-Alice-Poster-89x128.jpg 89w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-Carol-Ted-Alice-Poster.jpg 580w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 209px) 100vw, 209px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Synopsis:<\/strong><br \/>\nAfter returning from a weekend retreat on sensitivity, a documentary-maker (Robert Culp) and his wife (Natalie Wood) decide to be completely open with one another &#8212; but when Culp admits to having a sexual fling and an unperturbed Wood thanks him for being honest, their married best friends (Dyan Cannon and Elliott Gould) don&#8217;t know what to make of the situation.\n<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>\n<strong>Genres, Themes, Actors, and Directors:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Comedy<\/li>\n<li>Counterculture<\/li>\n<li>Dyan Cannon Films<\/li>\n<li>Elliott Gould Films<\/li>\n<li>Infidelity<\/li>\n<li>Marital Problems<\/li>\n<li>Natalie Wood Films<\/li>\n<li>Paul Mazursky Films<\/li>\n<li>Sexuality<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Response to Peary\u2019s Review: <\/strong><br \/>\nPeary argues that this &#8220;still funny debut film by Paul Mazursky, about the changing and confused sexual mores of the upper middle class in Southern California during the late sixties&#8230; was not as thematically daring as it pretended to be&#8221;, and ends with a &#8220;cop-out&#8221; &#8212; but that until its final moments, it is &#8220;well written and contains many hilarious vignettes, including an aroused Gould and a disinterested Cannon (both new film stars) in bed after hearing of Culp&#8217;s infidelity: <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-1024x560.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"350\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-1024x560.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-300x164.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-128x70.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-768x420.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-1536x839.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon-494x270.png 494w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould-Cannon.png 1821w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; Culp telling Wood of  his affair and becoming slightly annoyed that she&#8217;s not jealous:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-1024x553.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"346\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57526\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-1024x553.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-300x162.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-128x69.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-768x415.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-1536x830.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood-500x270.png 500w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood.png 1849w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; Cannon talking to her psychiatrist about her sexual confusion:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-1024x555.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"347\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57527\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-1024x555.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-300x163.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-128x69.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-768x416.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-1536x832.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych-498x270.png 498w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-Psych.png 1833w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; [and] Culp offering a drink to a nervous lover&#8221;. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-1024x559.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"349\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57528\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-1024x559.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-300x164.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-128x70.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-768x419.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-1536x838.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink-495x270.png 495w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Drink.png 1827w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>While I agree with Peary that each of the above scenes (among others) is cleverly written and dryly humorous, I disagree with his assertion that the film&#8217;s ending is disappointing in any way. This may be a &#8220;mainstream movie with an ending&#8230; that allowed middle-class viewers to go home happy&#8221;, but Culp&#8217;s willingness to be open with his wife about his infidelity actually comes across as quite radical, and leads to an equally &#8220;radical&#8221; response by Wood &#8212; not to mention an incisive skewering of gender norms (there&#8217;s a dilly of a double-standard that emerges at a certain point in the script, and is nicely handled).  <\/p>\n<p>Peary also asserts that &#8220;one problem&#8221; in the film is that &#8220;all four characters come across like jerks by the end,&#8221; but I think this is exactly the point. When given permission to follow their desires at whim, without concern for (traditional) social conventions, these characters temporarily devolve into expected narcissism &#8212; which doesn&#8217;t exactly make them likable; they&#8217;re experimenting, and part of the fun in watching their travails is to see how foolishly they flounder. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1817\" height=\"995\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-57530\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks.png 1817w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks-300x164.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks-1024x561.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks-128x70.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks-768x421.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks-1536x841.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Jerks-493x270.png 493w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1817px) 100vw, 1817px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The only character who emerges semi-triumphant within the new state of affairs (at least until the culminating scene) is Wood &#8212; who, on a side note, was indeed &#8220;never prettier&#8221; (a fact which slyly contributes to the inanity of Culp&#8217;s decision to cheat on her). The picture&#8217;s ultimate moral, I think, is that social strictures and contracts (complete with strategic deception, as needed) exist for a reason, serving as useful tools for navigating the undeniably tricky waters of long-term relationships; it&#8217;s to Mazursky&#8217;s credit that his film &#8212; rather than seeming dated &#8212; remains such a potent example of this fact. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Redeeming Qualities and Moments: <\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Natalie Wood as Carol<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-1024x558.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"349\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57532\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-1024x558.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-300x163.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-128x70.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-768x418.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-1536x837.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6-496x270.png 496w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Wood6.png 1819w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Dyan Cannon as Alice<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-1024x556.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"348\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57531\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-1024x556.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-300x163.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-128x70.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-768x417.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-1536x834.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon-497x270.png 497w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Cannon.png 1825w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Elliott Gould as Ted<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-1024x552.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"345\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57534\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-1024x552.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-300x162.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-128x69.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-768x414.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-1536x828.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3-501x270.png 501w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Gould3.png 1831w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Robert Culp as Bob<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-1024x553.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"346\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57533\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-1024x553.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-300x162.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-128x69.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-768x415.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-1536x829.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp-500x270.png 500w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Culp.png 1810w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li>The hilariously incisive opening sequence at the retreat<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-1024x554.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"346\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-57529\" srcset=\"https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-1024x554.png 1024w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-300x162.png 300w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-128x69.png 128w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-768x415.png 768w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-1536x831.png 1536w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening-499x270.png 499w, https:\/\/filmfanatic.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bob-and-Carol-Opening.png 1825w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Mazursky&#8217;s surprisingly sharp script<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Must See? <\/strong><br \/>\nYes, for its historical significance, and as an engaging marital drama. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Categories<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Good Show<\/li>\n<li>Historically Relevant<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Links: <\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0064100\/\">IMDb entry<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dvdtalk.com\/dvdsavant\/s1419bob.html\">DVD Savant Review<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tcm.com\/tcmdb\/title\/3739\/bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice#articles-reviews\">TCM Article<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.timeout.com\/london\/film\/bob-carol-ted-alice\">Time Out Capsule Review<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s beautiful, see &#8212; that&#8217;s really a lovely thing.&#8221; Synopsis: After returning from a weekend retreat on sensitivity, a documentary-maker (Robert Culp) and his wife (Natalie Wood) decide to be completely open with one another &#8212; but when Culp admits to having a sexual fling and an unperturbed Wood thanks him for being honest, their married best friends (Dyan Cannon and Elliott Gould) don&#8217;t know what to make of the situation. 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